The Dinner Table
The latter part of this is really disturbing, Islam tells you that you have been chosen for it and it has been perfected for you! This is surely Cult tactics, like something the church of scientology would tell you.
I've read also this line a number of times "hereafter he shall be one of the losers." Now Islam is a bully! seems funny to me that a little over 500 years ago the "Loser" insult was being used to put people down.
[5.18] And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of Allah and His beloved ones. Say: Why does He then chastise you for your faults? Nay, you are mortals from among those whom He has created, He forgives whom He pleases and chastises whom He pleases; and Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them, and to Him is the eventual coming.
What's this about? Why should the Jews and the Christians be persecuted in Allahs eyes? Certainly it seems that the Jews have always been persecuted by someone, religion's whipping boys? It is a cunning trick actually; to include in your religion a synopsis of others and point out their weaknesses, reminds me of American adverts where one company says they are so much better than their competitors and explicitly names them. Doesn't really seem fair.
This is worrying; having started out with an impartial view of the Quran, i see myself turning against it and disliking what i read. The only other time this has happened to me is with Christianity.
[5.20] And when Musa said to his people: O my people! remember the favor of Allah upon you when He raised prophets among you and made you kings and gave you what He had not given to any other among the nations.
(My translation) They said: no way, we are not going to risk ourselves fighing that lot. You go and fight and we'll sit here and wait for you.
[5.25] He said: My Lord! Surely I have no control (upon any) but my own self and my brother; therefore make a separation between us and the nation of transgressors.
(my translation) he said: but i can not control the other people, can't you just keep us apart?
[5.26] He said: So it shall surely be forbidden to them for forty years, they shall wander about in the land, therefore do not grieve for the nation of transgressors.
(My translation) in the future tell the story of two men who were both given a mission from Allah, one of them accepted and the other didn't. The one who accepted wanted to kill his brother because his brother would not accept this mission, he saw it was evil and Allah was testing them.
[5.28] If you will stretch forth your hand towards me to slay me, I am not one to stretch forth my hand towards you to slay you surely I fear Allah, the Lord of the worlds:
(My translation) You can kill me and i do not fear it, i only fear Allah.
[5.29] Surely I wish that you should bear the sin committed against me and your own sin, and so you would be of the inmates of the fire, and this is the recompense of the unjust.
Not sure i understand this at all! my attempt to explain it may well pervert the original meaning. however i'm not sure what that is. It could be that Allah wants us to fight the transgressors and those that do not fight will be subject to grievous chastisement.
therefore fear not the people and fear Me
Thee is something wrong the logic of becomming free from fear and greif and yet still fearing, yes it's the almighty, but fear is an off/on kind of deal rather than a grey area with a bit of fear here and not any over there.
[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
I really don't remember ever being taught to hate other religions by my Christian upbringing, why are muslims taught this? Actually i'm surprised to not see the hindus and the buddhists here as well.
[5.57] O you who believe! do not take for guardians those who take your religion for a mockery and a joke, from among those who were given the Book before you and the unbelievers; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah if you are believers.
I'm beginning to get a sense of faith in muslims that most westerners do not have, not because they are christian or jewish, but because they are neither any more. If there is ever a holy war, those with no faith will thrashed by the muslims because of their strength of belief. I can see why Godless America is hated.
[5.64] And the Jews say: The hand of Allah is tied up! Their hands shall be shackled and they shall be cursed for what they say. Nay, both His hands are spread out, He expends as He pleases; and what has been revealed to you from your Lord will certainly make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; and We have put enmity and hatred among them till the day of resurrection; whenever they kindle a fire for war Allah puts it out, and they strive to make mischief in the land; and Allah does not love the mischief-makers.
So i'm thinking of the situation in Iraq, was Muslim lead Iraq under Saddam a Goddly country. It seems to me that it wasn't and Islam was used incorrectly by the leaders. So given Allahs ruling Saddam would be brought to justice by Allah, which could be seen to have happened. The people rejoiced and all was well, but one godless leader was replaced with another and this one was not a muslim and barely a christian, he/they were godless invaders, and again by the ruling of Allah they also must be brought to justice for their crimes, not against man, but against Allah.
[5.90] O you who believe! intoxicants and games of chance and (sacrificing to) stones set up and (dividing by) arrows are only an uncleanness, the Shaitan's work; shun it therefore that you may be successful.
It's funny to me that this universal hatred of drink and drugs in religion as in government and law actually harbours the spark that is needed to be able to see the truth of things. It seems that religions and governments do not want people to see the truth and demonise altered states of consciousness as evil, and yet these same altered states are exactly those that their own apostles spoke about and wnated people to experience.
[5.94] O you who believe! Allah will certainly try you in respect of some game which your hands and your lances can reach, that Allah might know who fears Him in secret; but whoever exceeds the limit after this, he shall have a painful punishment.
What is it with all too familiar human traits of selfishness and greed that prevent men from telling the whole truth, why must it always be skewed in their favour?
[5.97] Allah has made the Kaaba, the sacred house, a maintenance for the people, and the sacred month and the offerings and the sacrificial animals with garlands; this is that you may know that Allah knows whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth, and that Allah is the Knower of all things.
I hate all this sacrifice stuff, the only sacrifice that one must make to T6yr4 is the sacrifice of his mind.
[5.101] O you who believe! do not put questions about things which if declared to you may trouble you, and if you question about them when the Quran is being revealed, they shall be declared to you; Allah pardons this, and Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing.
But like the man says, maybe i should read it all before judging.