Closer to God

Mystical experience?

I have just had what i hesitate to call a mystical or godly experience.

The background to this is as follows; I have been using the mind-brain message board quite heavily recently, and I have also been learning about buddhism and meditation. I was having a conversation with these two people who appeared to be trying to tell me something but in a very cryptic way, the thread is posted below:

veda:

"you kno, sometimes a tasty morsel falls on the kitchen floor, and lazy as i am, instead of pick it up sometimes ill call the dog and point at that morsel on the floor, and he looks at my hand to see if i have something good to eat to give him. then he looks out the window to see if i was trying to tell him his territory is being invaded, then he looks carefully at my hand again to see if i really do have a treat for him but he missed it the first time. im pointing right at a piece of steak on the floor but hes lookin at my hand.

so maybe its the same kinda thing with some of the people that asked me "where's God, veda?" and i point right at Him, but theyre lookin at my hand.

im not sayin theyre dumb or stupid, becuz its not about smartness or intelligence, its about a different way of thinking, a different way of looking, like one of those magic eye pictures, my guy over here says. you just have to focus your eyes right, otherwise you cant see the picture. but if you want to see the picture you have to keep looking, you have to keep trying, not give up after a few minutes and demand proof that anythings there, or spend time telling me there is no picture and that im crazy. you gotta keep trying and dont get discouraged becuz we all have to go at our own pace, its not a competition thang when it comes to growing and learning and maturing. you just gotta keep lookin, and eventually youll get it.

wow that was quite the ramble, i wonder if it made any sense to anybody?"

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Laz:

"Quote:so maybe its the same kinda thing with some of the people that asked me "where's God, veda?" and i point right at Him, but theyre lookin at my hand.

I really wouldn't worry yourself about the others, like you said:

Quote:you just gotta keep lookin, and eventually youll get it.

That's all the advice anyone needs, they'll get it in their own time and in their own way :0)

If you want an insite into why people have trouble believing, I would say that it's because in this world people are lied to all the time; by the media, by the polititcians, by their friends, and by strangers.

They learn to be paranoid to survive, trust has to be earnt. If you slip, you've lost it, and you'll have to work twice as hard to regain it. "

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veda:

"seems like all these threads we got goin are related somehow.. seeing God, lookin past the ego, yoga discipline and the universal Self, desire and the road to enlightenment...
haha im tryin to quit lookin at the hand and see where that big ole finger is pointing"

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Laz:

"Trouble is, as the English and Americans are two nations seperated by a common language; you and I are also.

I could draw many conclusions from what you are saying! "

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bubba joe ananda:

"quote:wow that was quite the ramble, i wonder if it made any sense to anybody?

It was pure wisdom and no one could have said it better.

It never matters who is listening or is able to hear, only that it is known by you and that it was there for you to hear. "

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Laz:

"This is like a cryptic crossword puzzle

So what is it that you think I heard Joe? PM me if you like? "

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bubba joe ananda:

"The message was to veda, but what is interesting is the fact that it made such an impression on you to respond.
Did you hear something? "

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Laz:

"I think my Ego just went through the roof
I'm going to have to take a break. "

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So what happened to me here?

I think I experienced an expansion of consciousness whilest wide awake and without inducement from any drug. I felt halfway between my two big experiences whilst stoned. I was not me and instead I was someone else, and I was being told that I was the Bodhisattva.

I was saying that I wasn't, I couldn't be. I was told that I would remain forever until the last person had been helped achieve enlightenment, again I was rejecting this idea in my head.

Bodhisattva is a buddhist term translated literally as "one whose essence is perfect wisdom" or "one destined for enlightenment. The bodhisattva takes a vow: "I must lead all beings to liberation, I will stay here until the end, even for the sake of one living mortal" (Ch'en, 67). The bodhisattva has reached enlightenment but chooses to sacrifice Nirvana for the selfless life of leading others to enlightenment.

Shortly afterward Joe posted: "It never matters who is listening or is able to hear, only that it is known by you and that it was there for you to hear"

He says the "message" was meant for veda, who I think he knows very well. what was this? Was Joe trying to send some sort of psychic message to her, and i intercepted it? that's the only way I can comprehend what happened at this time, it was like I was veda and Joe was telling veda that she was Bodhisattva. very very very very fucking weird.

11/08/03